Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 23:23:39 GMT
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(;GM[1]VW[]SZ[19]HA[2]PB[Sheah]BR[NR ]PW[JuJo]WR[NR ]GN[\(IGS\) JuJo\(W\) vs Sheah\(B\)]EV[A game played on the Internet Go Server]DT[1993-02-07]PC[IGS: 128.32.201.46 6969]RE[B+Resign]US[Brought to you by the IGS program]KM[0.5]C[IGS game played on FEb. 7, 1993
White jujo\[9p\] Black sheah\[5p\]
handicap 2
komi 0.5
black wins by resignation
zhuge 72k: here we go!!!]AB[pd][dp];W[cn];B[fq];W[qo];B[cd];C[
tweet NR : Jiang was late because his car broke down. He has an old car. ]W[ec];C[
tweet NR : he was very upset about being so late.]B[de];C[
tweet NR : no komi. this is a 2stone handicap.]W[cj];B[hc];C[
christ NR : sweat,is jujo still in U.S.A.?
Shuku 6d : how long that big game lasted yesterday?
sweat NR : he is in sanfrancisco christ]W[nc];C[
OK NR : right, we still have to play the game later
zhuge NR : is e17 dead?
csp 20k : no]B[lc];C[
christ NR : no
kiva NR : zhuge knows it and asks, bad :-\)
zhuge NR : :-\)
sli 5d : is this yesterday's game?
sweat NR : nothing is dead until the srones are removed from the board zhuge :\)
zhuge NR : yes... we're replaying it.
Shuku 6d : how long that big game lasted yesterday? ask again :-\(
sli 5d : thanks]W[pf];C[
baseline 28k : what's up , zhuge?
OK NR : speed up.....
sli 5d : who won?
kiva NR : only zhuge was dead thousand years ago :-\)]B[nd];C[
Meijin NR : faster, faster]W[md];C[
christ NR : that is a trick move
zhuge NR : i would have no time to kibitz... :-\(
baseline 28k : who is typing, zhuge?
zhuge NR : me.
zhuge NR : n16 was a trick move?
sweat NR : zhuge is typing!
Shuku 6d : JuJo want ot make game complex]B[mc];C[
sweat NR : what a guy right?]W[qd];C[
christ NR : do they have a time limit?
sweat NR : let's give zhuge a hand!!
zhuge NR : BTW, i have not lied on any move yet. :-\)
Meijin NR : this is a joseki]B[oc];W[qc];B[pq];C[
zhuge NR : feel free to comment.
sweat NR : comment
sweat NR : comment :\)
christ NR : should it play at P4
zhuge NR : what's the next move?
kiva NR : comment
OK NR : comment!
Meijin NR : i prefer p4 here
yucao 3k : i saw it.
Shuku 6d : I wonder why JuJo didn't leave some variation at this corner ...
sweat NR : p4 is not good!
baseline 28k : o4
Meijin NR : q3 is little bit low
sweat NR : i thinbk
yucao 3k : what's the o4 joseki called? in japanese.
Shuku 6d : I wonder why JuJo didn't leave some variation at this corner ... not good]W[np];B[po];C[
zhuge NR : any prediction for this corner?]W[pp];C[
sweat NR : q4
yucao 3k : big slant = ? in Japanese?
christ NR : I bet they will start fight.]B[op];C[
Meijin NR : q3 is what w wants
sweat NR : p4]W[qp];C[
sweat NR : r4
Shuku 6d : for those players play h-2 game always leave corner empty ...
sweat NR : p5]B[oo];C[
zhuge NR : unfair... you remember all the moves, sweat! :-\)
sweat NR : p3
achim 2d : it is a TAISHA variante]W[oq];C[
sweat NR : :\)
yucao 3k : thanks achim.]B[nq];C[
Meijin NR : this variation is in favor of w]W[or];C[
christ NR : Black play very think
zhuge NR : why is that Meijin?]B[mp];C[
Meijin NR : it's a Handicap joseki]W[pr];C[
Meijin NR : in even game, b will lose here
sweat NR : but it is a handicap game! :\)
peep 5d : a replay?
yin 6d : w is not successful on the upperside]B[no];C[
jjs 4d : a new game, peep
christ NR : so far black didn't play any wrong mvoe yet
zhuge NR : b looks thick.]W[qm];C[
Meijin NR : i think w catch up a bit so far
zhuge NR : now... any guess for the next move?
sweat NR : it was a masterpiece? of black until the end
peep 5d : i have reviewed it - interesting to see jujo losing my a simple mistake :\)
jjs 4d : p16
jjs 4d : f16
peep 5d : u must mean of w, sweat]B[fd];C[
christ NR : why don't white play at q7]W[cg];C[
sweat NR : what ever :\)
zhuge NR : next move made me excited when i watched it last night...
peep 5d : really? then u r sbeat from now on :-\)
christ NR : I think it going to be a territory game
jjs 4d : so enter slower, zhuge
peep 5d : how was ur heart, zhuge?
sweat NR : what is sbeat?
rhoades 1d : instead of f16, how about b c12
yucao 3k : sweat's twin bro.
Meijin NR : what about b plays c12 first instead of f16
zhuge NR : no, it's going to be a fighting game.
rhoades 1d : to keep w unsettled?
sweat NR : :\)
peep 5d : i just replaced w by b, sweat - what ever :\)
zhuge NR : here it is ---]B[cl];C[
christ NR : bad move
yucao 3k : why?
zhuge NR : c8 is bad move?
Meijin NR : i don't like c8
christ NR : yes
rhoades 1d : any comments on f16 vs c12 for b?
yin 6d : intresting c8
sweat NR : actually this is not sweat. this is his brother. hw gve me his account number so to \[pretend\] like sweat :\)
jjs 4d : so which is better than c8?
peep 5d : so u ARE sbeat? :-\)
zhuge NR : was c8 too early or what? high dans...
sweat NR : i think c8 is not bad]W[cp];B[cq];C[
sweat NR : this is sweat's brother
Meijin NR : c8 is not bad, but not good either
christ NR : now white try to make it bad
zhuge NR : what about this exchange?
jjs 4d : c8 is neutral
christ NR : hard to tell
Meijin NR : b4 is better than c8]W[bq];C[
Shuku 6d : juseki
sweat NR : black is trying to make good use of o4 group
Meijin NR : make game as simple as possible in H-games
zhuge NR : i predicted a c5 for b now...
Shuku 6d : that's what B want ot do
zhuge NR : right that's the question...
sweat NR : but somethings you just have to do
sli 5d : any comment m1?]B[co];C[
sweat NR : comments tweet?
rhoades 1d : in order to make use of his thickness,]W[bp];B[do];C[
tweet NR : not yet. i'm waiting
rhoades 1d : b should give up corner and push with c5-b5
Meijin NR : i think if b played c12 instead of f16, b would be in better position]W[dq];B[bo];C[
yucao 3k : b gave up too much territory.
zhuge NR : BTW, these moves \(after #9\) were made in France. :-\)
sweat NR : d2 correct move
christ NR : Now black try to make territory at bottom]W[dr];C[
Meijin NR : d2
zhuge NR : here you go...
christ NR : good]B[dh];C[
peep 5d : come on people. kibitz as much as u can
jjs 4d : i like potential in h games
zhuge NR : what about d12?
peep 5d : and try to sound like a pro as much as u can, too :-\)
sweat NR : i like it
yin 6d : d12 is good
Meijin NR : waht about e13?]W[dg];C[
christ NR : I can see black try to make territory at middle
zhuge NR : next move, any guess?
sweat NR : e12?]B[ch];C[
jjs 4d : e12 of course
login 4d : I like d12. keep w busy so w cannot make a move in e17.
yucao 3k : a pain in the neck having seen it. can't guess.
zhuge NR : you forgot, sweat. :-\)
sweat NR : got you jjs! :\)
jjs 4d : oops
zhuge NR : okay... i see. :-\)
turbulence 24k : E12
zhuge NR : i expected e12 too... but...]W[bg];C[
Shuku 6d : that's not JuJo's prior style ...
christ NR : it's time to start fight because black is thick
zhuge NR : b13 looks strong.
christ NR : wrong
achim 2d : surprise i thought of hane on b12 and/or e12
zhuge NR : why is that?
sweat NR : what is wrong?
Shuku 6d : why JuJo make his game so busy?]B[eh];C[
tweet NR : black c12 and black d12 are not good.
achim 2d : you should take the liberties of the 2 blacks
christ NR : so he can confuse sheah.
Shuku 6d : STRANGE
tweet NR : the reason is because of white at b17 later.
sweat NR : why tweet?
rhoades 1d : now w has a weak group to care for
rap 1d : e 12 key pt attack or defense
zhuge NR : right... b13 aims at b17 too.
achim 2d : e12 is key point for influence in a fight!
jjs 4d : but it seems that b got a better result?
Shuku 6d : need use trick for jujo?
peiyi 2d : b12]W[bh];C[
bookstore 5d : are those jiang's comments, tweet?
tweet NR : yes
achim 2d : it is good enough for black to let white live small at the edge
tweet NR : but he made a mistake later.
sweat NR : thanks tweet!
christ NR : black try to get the thickneww
zhuge NR : wow... we are getting more people than yesterday... :-\)
simonson 2d : is this a "replay"
zhuge NR : yes, simonson.
jjs 4d : d9?
christ NR : so he can get territory in the middle]B[eg];C[
hulei 1k : D10]W[ck];C[
sli 5d : because yertsterday we r locked out!
tmorris 6d : I was locked out yesterday, both servers.
peiyi 2d : b17 is w's target
sweat NR : hahaha
christ NR : white try to get out
achim 2d : i would ever play d10 instead of e13
bookstore 5d : I saw 150 players waiting yesterday.
sweat NR : i was in there the whole time! :\)
simonson 2d : when was this game actually played \(time?\)]B[dl];C[
christ NR : really
zhuge NR : so far no typo yet. :-\)
achim 2d : i don't understand blacks strategy
int NR : a
zhuge NR : i feel black tries to control the center.
Shuku 6d : neither W's
sli 5d : i count 25o0 people waiting :\)
jjs 4d : e10]W[ej];C[
zhuge NR : good, jjs.]B[ek];C[
sweat NR : how many?
Shuku 6d : B get nothing ?
tweet NR : e9 not good.
sli 5d : i was waiting few hours, and finally get kicked out :\(
achim 2d : main question is : will B get sente in this fight to play around p8 ?
zhuge NR : any feel about this fight?
bookstore 5d : e9 good.
Meijin NR : i don't like e9
tweet NR : e9 is not good.
sweat NR : told you yesterday!
christ NR : white is in trouble
Shuku 6d : cap at f10?
sweat NR : e9?
zhuge NR : any better variation you think?
Meijin NR : i prefer b15
aps 1k : f9?
yucao 3k : tweet, maybe u can type your kibitz in capital letters. so we know it's from jujo.
zhuge NR : later changes will show that e9 is not so good.
achim 2d : a backdraw if white can enter the middle
sweat NR : yes tweet]W[fj];C[
jjs 4d : type your own commets in small latters, tweet
Shuku 6d : e9 not good
tweet NR : white is aware of black d10, bu]B[fk];C[
rhoades 1d : contact play suspect in large scale attack
rhoades 1d : i guess b wants the option to cut at d10
christ NR : black try to get the bottom
zhuge NR : we have 62 people watching... the max number on France server. :-\)
sweat NR : hahaha!
sweat NR : actually 63 right?
zhuge NR : time for b17...
bookstore 5d : couldn't get in france server last night.]W[bc];C[
Meijin NR : e9 is in wrong direction
christ NR : the bottom looks empty
tweet NR : blk e9 was bad because it allows white at f10
sweat NR : "all the 5dans now logout"! :\)
tweet NR : white is not worried about blkss future play at d10
zhuge NR : hahaha..
christ NR : c 17 is good
jjs 4d : so maybe f10 better than e9 for b?
tweet NR : what was happy to get in b17]B[cc];C[
Meijin NR : if b b15, b can take the whole corner
mpark 5d : lucky me, i am demoted to 4d..
zhuge NR : :-\)
sweat NR : :\(]W[bl];C[
tweet NR : ?
zhuge NR : oops typo. :-\)
sweat NR : are you using 3computers? zhuge?
yucao 3k : typo
Meijin NR : undo
peep 5d : haha. everyone knows it :\)
Meijin NR : c18
zhuge NR : wow... :-\)
qiqi 6d : no undo in pro games]B[bm];C[
achim 2d : if both players agree ... :\)
sweat NR : now what?
Meijin NR : c18
qiqi 6d : the offical wont agree]W[cb];B[ci];C[
sweat NR : meijin 9p!
Shuku 6d : b 16?
Meijin NR : no, that's the only move
peep 5d : this game is not official anymore, because of b9 undo :\)
christ NR : now white get about 45 points' ' white try to make alive and decrease black's territory at same time
sweat NR : Shuku pk! :\)
achim 2d : an empty triangle with free decidion!
jansteen 4d : Most interesting part of the game this moment
sweat NR : is monet here?
zhuge NR : i think the game is getting interesting now...
christ NR : what's that?]W[bi];C[
Shuku 6d : ? :-\)
sweat NR : hi jansteen!
rhoades 1d : bad shape-good ove
jjs 4d : any commentson c11, tweet?
peep 5d : hi jan
jansteen 4d : hi sweat
zhuge NR : which one, rhoades?
tweet NR : no
jansteen 4d : hi peep
rhoades 1d : c11
zhuge NR : tweet want me to play faster... :-\)
achim 2d : i'm curious how W will use his two cut off stones]B[db];C[
jansteen 4d : Busy here!
christ NR : hi everyone]W[bb];C[
jansteen 4d : hi christ
tweet NR : this is white's first mistake
sweat NR : hi jesus christ!
zhuge NR : next... any guess?
lixj 5d : I would play D17
zhuge NR : this is a mistake, tweet?
rhoades 1d : why is w fiddling with corner?
tweet NR : white should play at b15 now.
christ NR : white success
Meijin NR : see , b at last made b15, if earlier, b got the whole corner
achim 2d : the first ? are you sure ?
turbulence 24k : Jiang is an underground worker.]B[be];C[
zhuge NR : is w left side in danger now?
jjs 4d : what's that, turbulence?
jansteen 4d : right zhuge
Meijin NR : d17
christ NR : I bet jujo will gets the terriotory first
Shuku 6d : b15 only]W[gj];C[
tweet NR : white regretted b18.
zhuge NR : he did. hmmm.
bookstore 5d : this is the effect of e9.
Shuku 6d : cut
sweat NR : thabnk you tweet]B[bk];C[
OK NR : g13 ?
christ NR : I don't get it?
sweat NR : what christ?]W[bj];C[
Meijin NR : why, tweet?
jjs 4d : b9 for the cut at d10
peep 5d : what did jujo think right then, tweet?]B[al];C[
tweet NR : because white should have played at b15 instead of b18
christ NR : god know
zhuge NR : b team has no eye?
omura 1d : you know
jjs 4d : h8 good for b
turbulence 24k : D9 now
Shuku 6d : why w is so busy to get small teritory?
bookstore 5d : so, why e9 was bad?]W[dc];C[
zhuge NR : d17 surprised me.
jansteen 4d : d17 overplay isn't it?
peep 5d : not me.
tweet NR : no
peep 5d : the only choice, to me
Meijin NR : it's huge
achim 2d : w seems to look for a chance to play e14 in sente]B[eb];C[
tweet NR : d17 was good.
OK NR : cut now ?
lixj 5d : no, d17 is the only move.
christ NR : it take courage to do that.
zhuge NR : d17 was a must since w had b18?
Meijin NR : w is planing to give up c10 group
peep 5d : that's true, for christ's sake :\)
sweat NR : "74 people watching the game now"!
turbulence 24k : E18 normal.
rap 1d : d17allow life and aji to reduce area]W[fb];C[
jansteen 4d : and still not crashed :\)
christ NR : that is wrong
Meijin NR : but c10 group left a lot of bad aji for b
zhuge NR : i am sorry, but the kibitzing so far is so different from yesterday's :-\)
sweat NR : i know were you there yeterday jansteen?]B[fc];C[
jjs 4d : i guess at this stage b is better]W[ea];C[
jansteen 4d : Only at Berkeley sweat, but replayed the game today
achim 2d : if c10 group to sacrify he sacrifies an sure eye and gives B still the 3 stones to attack
rap 1d : b not better for long
sweat NR : i c
turbulence 24k : D10 works?
christ NR : jujo bet the c10 group
jjs 4d : so r u combining both yesterday and todays kibitzs to the game?
zhuge NR : good question turbulence.
sweat NR : what?
turbulence 24k : w doesnt have D16 anymore.]B[dj];C[
jansteen 4d : Hum, interesting issue jjs :\)
zhuge NR : d10 kills w?
rhoades 1d : pretty gutsy to sacrifice so much
Meijin NR : w anticipated this
peep 5d : please either remember what u said yesterday, or just creat someting new while kibitzing :\)
Shuku 6d : good appetite
jansteen 4d : Should black attack the whole group instead with j10?
christ NR : Now let's see what jujo going to do.
turbulence 24k : b lost too mach at corner, unfair. so D10 must work.
jjs 4d : yeah, jansteen was doing good job
christ NR : no'
rhoades 1d : j10 would not capture it
achim 2d : i'm not of professional strength but i can't belive this strategy pays
christ NR : agree]W[dk];C[
jansteen 4d : When j10, still d10 there for later rhoades :\)]B[di];C[
Meijin NR : that's the difference between pros and up
rhoades 1d : true
Shuku 6d : B lost too many teritory so can't risk anymore on attacking
Meijin NR : i mean pros and us
achim 2d : i will now be happy to attack the w stones in the center to build up my moyo]W[gk];C[
sweat NR : when does lyu login today?
jansteen 4d : pros and "up" is funny :\)
christ NR : oops
zhuge NR : when w gets g9, he doesn' tlook so bad.
yucao 3k : pain for b.
sweat NR : anyone know?]B[qh];C[
zhuge NR : the battle ended at the left...]W[qg];C[
christ NR : might be the losing move
Meijin NR : w is very thick in the center
zhuge NR : which one, chirst?
Shuku 6d : do they usually play that way?]B[ph];C[
achim 2d : now it was a forcing move :\)
christ NR : forget
zhuge NR : next move, anyone?
Meijin NR : due to some aji
jjs 4d : but b has no weak group
sweat NR : k4!]W[jp];C[
Meijin NR : yeah, k4 is wonderful
sweat NR : thank you! :\)
jjs 4d : k6
zhuge NR : was that what you *really* had in mind, sweat? :-\)
peace 1d : you watched it didn't you.
jansteen 4d : Anyone can explain me k4?
sweat NR : i am 9p potential!
achim 2d : i wonder how strong are the 4 stones of W in the center ?
sweat NR : :\)
jjs 4d : i saw the later part of the game
christ NR : I don't get it
Shuku 6d : u?
Meijin NR : aiming at e4 and e8
zhuge NR : i thought w would attack q12 stones right away...
jansteen 4d : what's the point of k4 pls ?
sweat NR : Meijin 9p!]B[jn];C[
peep 5d : did they actually play here or the french server?
rhoades 1d : pretty hard to attack q12
turbulence 24k : maybe, swaetheart]W[lo];C[
Meijin NR : due to the aji at e8 and e4]B[ln];C[
sweat NR : a sweatheaart/
Shuku 6d : m7?
jansteen 4d : But if black just enforces with f5 isn't k4 weak then?
Meijin NR : w can play strong at lower side]W[ep];C[
zhuge NR : wow, e4!
christ NR : jujo style
sweat NR : Meijin 9p!
Shuku 6d : h4?
zhuge NR : e4 looks too strong to me. :-\)
Meijin NR : no resistance for b]B[fm];W[eo];C[
christ NR : good
Meijin NR : see, b has to take care of cut at e8
turbulence 24k : e4 normal.
tweet NR : this is white's second mistake
zhuge NR : really? e5?
achim 2d : there is the threat of a splitting attack
jjs 4d : you mean e5, tweet?
jansteen 4d : f4 better?
christ NR : yes
sli 5d : why?
zhuge NR : why?
peep 5d : what would be right, tweet?
turbulence 24k : c what happen.
Shuku 6d : don't know it]B[en];C[
tweet NR : can anyone guess where white should play at this point? :\)]W[dn];C[
rap 1d : w should just go over b not up
turbulence 24k : E5 absolutely good.
jansteen 4d : f4?
Meijin NR : f4?
christ NR : oh
gao 3d : e5 at f4?
christ NR : what's wrong
achim 2d : if so much comments come, please slow down the game zhuge :\)
Shuku 6d : ?
tweet NR : okay... where should white play now?
zhuge NR : sorry... let's listen to tweet's explanation...
turbulence 24k : what? who r playing?
Shuku 6d : incrediable ...
peep 5d : good.
tweet NR : white e5 is a mistake.
rap 1d : f4
jjs 4d : e6?
zhuge NR : or f4??
sli 5d : explain?
qiqi 6d : remove e5
sweat NR : some one guess
simonson 2d : g4
shaqi 1k : e6 ?
tweet NR : white should simply play at g5
qiqi 6d : e6
rap 1d : f4 to colonize lower side
zhuge NR : okay i just removed e5...
christ NR : F4
tweet NR : g5 is the correct play now.
zhuge NR : g5? wow...
lixj 5d : what is the variation? tweet?
jansteen 4d : isn't that too loose?
omura 1d : ???]B[bn];W[gp];C[
turbulence 24k : w wants F6 G5.
Shuku 6d : ggod for w now
christ NR : white try to get bottom
zhuge NR : w gained quite a bit, i feel.
jjs 4d : is k10 a mistake for b?]B[jj];C[
Meijin NR : w is short of liberties in this shape
qiqi 6d : i c
christ NR : Attack
zhuge NR : you're running too fast, jjs. :-\)
Shuku 6d : do some thing at bottom ?
jjs 4d : oops, shouldnot ahead of you]W[gn];C[
zhuge NR : you all tired?
qiqi 6d : g5 will end up better shape
Shuku 6d : b lost chance
christ NR : what a move
peep 5d : i am tired.
peep 5d : :\(
rhoades 1d : b may get 50 points in center...and lose
jjs 4d : what about g8 now?]B[hl];W[gl];C[
Meijin NR : g8 is really bad
jansteen 4d : funny shape: k6, h8 and k10
zhuge NR : yeah, it's hard to comment on fights.
christ NR : black is in trouble]B[gm];C[
turbulence 24k : big trouble.
sweat NR : why christ?
christ NR : H7]W[hm];C[
christ NR : see
omura 1d : what trouble?
Shuku 6d : means he played lots of useless moves]B[fn];C[
sweat NR : why is b in trouble?
kathy NR : b is behind now?
gao 3d : becuse e7"]W[fl];C[
Meijin NR : g5]B[el];W[fo];C[
zhuge NR : wow...
rap 1d : b make big mistake here
sli 5d : b 's middle is large
sweat NR : why does no one answer me?
zhuge NR : hey, where are you?!
yucao 3k : ain in the ...
zhuge NR : what's your question, sweat?
jjs 4d : what is b's mistake here?]B[em];C[
lin 2d : why not simply g5?
sweat NR : b is in trouble?
rhoades 1d : there goes the neighborhood
zhuge NR : looks like so...
lin 2d : I meant g6?]W[il];C[
zhuge NR : now w's center is very thick.
Shuku 6d : b's moro withered ...
sweat NR : no it isn't zhuge :\)
bookstore 5d : no,
zhuge NR : looks thick to me.
hulei 1k : H9?
sli 5d : h6?
qiqi 6d : what are you talking about Shuku?
bookstore 5d : it's only a good target.
turbulence 24k : jiang's efficiency is very high.]B[hn];C[
yucao 3k : b only got b10 group.]W[hk];C[
zhuge NR : okay, is it thick now? :-\)
Shuku 6d : hard to follow their game :-\( realy for pro or meijin 9p :-\)
bookstore 5d : still not.
sli 5d : not thick :\(
christ NR : it's hard to capture w now]B[hp];C[
rap 1d : ko possible in center?
Shuku 6d : isn't it?
Meijin NR : no way to capture w's center
Shuku 6d : j6
zhuge NR : okay i now admit that w is not so thick... :-\)
tweet NR : black h4 is very good.
christ NR : if the center made alive,w win
zhuge NR : h4?
tweet NR : white did not expect this move.
zhuge NR : wow... i will play h4 in every game of mine from now on. :-\)
sli 5d : is it good?
hulei 1k : h5?
turbulence 24k : i dont think so. H5 makes ko.
achim 2d : w can enter at j6 and j5 and give up the 5 w stones left
kathy NR : who is controlling the time now?]W[ho];C[
jjs 4d : yes, h4 is very good, the ko is the only move for w, tweet?
turbulence 24k : w has E14 ko threat.
hulei 1k : ko is better to W now
tweet NR : this ko is good timing for black.
tweet NR : it will allow black free moves to settle his positions.
bookstore 5d : it is heavy for w.
zhuge NR : huh, is it good for b or w or both or neither? :-\)
turbulence 24k : if w get J6, game over.
tweet NR : and white will lose his aji in the upper left corner.]B[go];C[
Shuku 6d : sure !]W[ef];C[
barry 6d : ko difficult for both, easier for w.]B[ff];C[
christ NR : false
tweet NR : this ko is not good for white
turbulence 24k : see, boys, how i predicted!]W[gn];C[
Meijin NR : aji-keshi]B[qq];C[
rap 1d : not gd because b can use it to strasigthen up gros
zhuge NR : where, Meijin?
Meijin NR : w e14
tweet NR : at this juncture jujo thought for a long time.
turbulence 24k : if i were w, J6!
barry 6d : e14 ko threat cost w points.
tweet NR : but eventually he decided this corner is too big to sacrifice.
jjs 4d : anyway, seems b has less ko threats
zhuge NR : but finally jujo decided to answer r3...
christ NR : white should finish the co]W[rq];B[go];C[
Shuku 6d : if w aviod this ko ...
zhuge NR : wow, 77!!]W[fg];B[fh];W[gn];C[
zhuge NR : really, i doubt if b can win this ko...